I've heard good things from ESAB but have no experience. But I also very seldom have long enough welds at a time to matter. depends on what you are planning on doing, here are some specs that have a bearing on the performance difference between the two. They are good welders. The ironman should have enough voltage for spray transfer with .035 wire if you use 90 argon 8 CO2 2oxy gas blend but you will probably still be pushing the duty cycle. This page was generated at 04:44 PM. 212 also has gun on demand feature which is nice if you weld both steel and aluminum on a regular basis.

If you really want to dial in your welder and spend time adjusting it, Or your constantly working with different metals of various thickness. Illinois Tool Works owns both Miller and Hobart. I usually weld between 1/8"and 3/8". But it will cost you more. what gives???? Thanks for all the replys. Does miller make something better than these that I should be looking at? Question: How long are the welding leads on the Miller 252? You either the Millermatic 252 or hate it. Since I had a huge project I just took oneval(ez_write_tag([[250,250],'waterdamagerestorationdallastexas_com-large-mobile-banner-1','ezslot_17',111,'0','0'])); I decided to dust this thing off and give it a go. Read The Full Review of Hobart Ironman 230 Here. And In my opinion Millers are built tougher and with more metal. Answer: 15 ft on lead and yes mine came with gas gauges.. if you haven’t welded with this machine you will fall in love…. Then . The Ironman 230 contains the same dual driven drive roll set up that Miller used on the Millermatic 210, 250, and 251.
I don't think Hobart has the same specs as Miller. Might run "more perfect" for lack of better wording on 030 but 035 is so much faster, I like larger wire for gaps and poor fits especially a little heavier plate. Easy to set. The Ironman 230 contains the same dual driven drive roll set up that Miller used on the Millermatic 210, 250, and 251.

It also is terrible with flashback and the wire burning into the tip. I have owned both miller and hobart machines for years – this post is meaningless and not well informed. I just used it to build a trailer, all with single pass welds. For example, are you welding 1/2" plate or car panels? Seems like the arc is more refined on the Lincoln Machine but I wouldn't call the Miller 252 arc soft unless you mean lack of splatter. It's simple with no fancy things to break on it and it welds great. In fact, Miller and Hobart are both produced by ITW! Consenses is lincoln or miller mig welder. The welders are very close in applications and capacity, but they can still be separated on the basis of many characteristics and requirements. The Miller 252 falls in the higher end of welders, the welder can be used for light to medium duty applications.
I found a dusty dented one under some plywood, In our “carpentry” section of the shop. Steve. Dependable.

eval(ez_write_tag([[336,280],'waterdamagerestorationdallastexas_com-netboard-1','ezslot_31',115,'0','0'])); I didn’t want to over tighten the machine, The drive isn’t angled – so if you tighten the spool too much your kill your motor. And I didn’t have to mess with the settings. There have been a couple times I wished I had the 230 Ironman but I need portability so I bought the 210. I have been considering the same thing but what about Century? For greater thickness penetration in the field we use stick and for precision tig – both of which are limited in the hobart line and that is where miller makes their money. Right now I have $1400 reasons to buy a Hobart. Here is a summary of the key differences –. The machine is always under a roof but thats about it....doors usually open. I did, however, hate the cheap clamp that was on the machine.

The main reason I was considering the switch is because in most of my research I see where it is not recommended to use short circuit for greater than, say , 3/8" plate. A versatile gas will be 80-5% Argon remainder CO2 this gas will permit welding with short circuit and spray transfer.

Got a little more poop which should make it a fine 035 unit if a guy had a steadier diet of 1/4 material. Why because they are the best, they are the standard that every welder is compared against. Miller 252 also boasts a larger output which extends to 300 Amperes. Your input is welcome. Decide which welder is right for you by learning the questions you need to ask when buying your first welder. It was the standard junk miller likes to include…, I don’t know why they cheap out on the accessories…, But anyway – I bolted on a new awesome clamp. Been a while though and this wasn't in a side by side test, just seems I can recall there being a noticeable difference in the amount of poop it had. I have only changed the tips on it. I'm new here and looking to upgrade from an old Sidekick 160 to a new machine with more power. Which one is best between Hobart Ironman 230 vs Miller 252? I realize that 1/2"material is an occasional weld I make with stick, but would like the option to mig it! The Hobart Ironman 230 is a modern welding machine which facilitates MIG as well as flux-core processes by Hobart Welding. http://weldingweb.com/showthread.php?178461-Hobart-ironman-230. If I remember right Miller owns Hobart. Why I recommend the Miller 252 for a Fab shop or Heavy DIY user. I can dial it in quicker with the limited settings, When I train new welders they find it easier to work with the Hobart, And have no worries about maintenance on expensive digital readouts. But I was in the fab shopeval(ez_write_tag([[300,250],'waterdamagerestorationdallastexas_com-narrow-sky-1','ezslot_29',113,'0','0'])); If I had to have a continuous arc on this guy it would die, Remember the duty cycle is based on 10 minutes, So if I could only weld for 4 minutes before the welder needs to rest for 6…, I love the Millermatic 252. The automatic gun detection system allows the operator to turn the machine on or off by pulling the trigger on the MIG gun, spool gun, or push/pull a gun. I like the Hobart if you want a simple to use. All times are GMT-6. They said to replace liner and put felt pad on. Thanks to the help here i have narrowed my search for a new welder down to the following 4: I can't point out the pros and cons, but if you tell what you intend to use the machine for it might help folks answer the question. Oh – and my 44 lb spool was crazy loose.

A MM 252 w/ .035 at 26-27 volts and about 500IPM doesn't have a soft arc we spray baseplates on guardrails with this setting with no problems. It all depends on the heat setting you are using at the time. While manufactures rate machines in brochures as far as metal thickness range to infer capability, it really comes down to basics current capability, feed rate and duty cycle. I am sure someone will chime in with a more technical analysis of the issue but there is my $.02. Hobart Ironman 230 vs Miller 252 There are only a few, but at the same time, major differences between the two. If this is your first visit, be sure to Well it has a better duty cycle 40% at 300 Amps 5/8 plate Miller 40% at 250 Amps. Maybe I should buy a small spool and see how that goes. The pre and post flow keep the shielding gas around the weld and protect it from porosity.

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